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WE ARE OVER THE TIPPING POINT
THE TOHUNGA LED ARE DETERMINED TO INSTALL A DICTATORIAL NEPOTIST DICTATORSHIP BY USING AND PERVERTING JUSTICE HAVING CORRUPTED PALIAMENT
I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS BUT I HATE THE THOUGHT MY DESCENDANTS WOULD DIRTY THEIR FACES AND DROP THEIR PANT'S IN AN EMBRACE OF DECEPTIONE
I have survived this because of the Holy Spirit. God has been watching you. I have lived here for almost 3 decades. I am very respectful off all people. People are People. I dislike Racism. We all have the same obligations and We all live under a Government that has a Health system that is failing it's people. Talk does not accomplish anything. Talk needs to change into Action.
I want the New Zealand Journalism to investigate the mess or abomination this System finds itself in. No Qualified Doctors or Anethitist. The Games are over and juvenile.
I have been failed this government has had 4 years to source an Anesthesiologist. I am a immigrate that came here to embrace this country. I am testifying that this Health system has failed all new Zealand Citizens. What a horrible mess. I think the World should be told. Off this mess.
The right to self determination! The recent covid pandemic has woken my eyes that I, as a kiwi, I did not have this ability to self determination. A mandate stripped families apart, sides were picked. Jobs lost. I reached out to you Act to be our voice. You declined and stayed the path of the rest. Now Iâve moved on but have never forgotten. NZ First will now & forever has my vote
A fool who follows another fool
In to a crime is learning The
Hard way you do The crime
And find out in court and notice
We have equal rights for all justice
TIM JAGO PAEDOPHILE
ACT PRESIDENT
Tino Rangatiratanga as an Inherently MÄori Concept
Tino Rangatiratanga is a uniquely MÄori concept that cannot be obtained, owned, or authentically exercised by PÄkehÄ or foreigners. It is deeply rooted in MÄori whakapapa (genealogy), tikanga (customary practices), and te ao MÄori (the MÄori worldview). It is inseparable from other intrinsic MÄori concepts such as tikanga MÄori, mÄtauranga MÄori, and rongoÄ MÄori. Hereâs why:
1. Tino Rangatiratanga is Defined by Whakapapa (Genealogy & Ancestry)
Tino rangatiratanga is the highest form of self-determination, sovereignty, and authority over land, people, and resources. It is directly tied to MÄori whakapapaâmeaning it can only belong to those who descend from tÅĢpuna MÄori.
âĸ Whakapapa as the Foundation: Authority over land (mana whenua) and people (mana tangata) comes from whakapapa. Only those who inherit this genealogy can claim tino rangatiratanga over their whenua and their people.
âĸ Not a Universal Concept: While concepts of sovereignty exist in other cultures, tino rangatiratanga is an exclusive MÄori expression of authority, defined by the Treaty of Waitangi and tikanga MÄori.
PÄkehÄ and foreigners do not have MÄori whakapapa, and therefore cannot inherit or exercise tino rangatiratanga.
2. Tikanga MÄori is Inseparable from Tino Rangatiratanga
Tikanga MÄori (MÄori law, ethics, and customs) is another fundamental aspect of MÄori self-determination. It governs how tino rangatiratanga is practiced.
âĸ Tikanga is Intergenerational: It is passed down through MÄori oral traditions, ceremonies, and practices that reflect iwi and hapÅĢ autonomy.
âĸ Mana & Tapu: These spiritual and social concepts regulate tino rangatiratanga. A person or group must be embedded in MÄori cultural traditions to uphold these values correctly.
âĸ Non-MÄori Cannot Fully Practice Tikanga: Tikanga is based on MÄori knowledge systems, histories, and responsibilities to land and ancestorsâthings non-MÄori do not possess.
Foreigners or PÄkehÄ may learn about tikanga MÄori, but they cannot embody or exercise it authentically because they do not belong to the whakapapa structures that give tikanga its authority.
3. MÄtauranga MÄori (MÄori Knowledge) is Not Just InformationâItâs a Living System
MÄtauranga MÄori is more than knowledgeâit is a way of seeing and interacting with the world through MÄori perspectives, refined over centuries.
âĸ Whakapapa of Knowledge: It is inherited, evolving through MÄori relationships with whenua, atua, and ancestors.
âĸ Colonisation Cannot Remove its Ownership: While elements of mÄtauranga MÄori can be studied or appropriated, its essence is bound to MÄori identity and lived experience.
âĸ PÄkehÄ or Foreigners Cannot Claim It: They may study mÄtauranga MÄori, but they do not have the cultural, spiritual, and genealogical ties required to authentically uphold and apply it in its full context.
4. RongoÄ MÄori (Traditional Healing) is Tied to Whenua & Ancestral Knowledge
RongoÄ MÄori is another domain exclusively tied to MÄori tino rangatiratanga. It involves the spiritual, physical, and emotional healing practices unique to iwi and hapÅĢ.
âĸ RongoÄ is Iwi-Specific: Healing practices, plant knowledge, and rituals are tied to specific areas, histories, and whakapapa.
âĸ MÄtauranga Embedded in RongoÄ: Understanding of rongoÄ comes from MÄori cosmology and deep relationships with the land, which non-MÄori do not share.
âĸ Spiritual Dimension: RongoÄ practitioners invoke karakia and atuaâelements that require whakapapa and an intrinsic MÄori worldview.
While PÄkehÄ or foreigners can learn about rongoÄ MÄori, they cannot own, control, or exercise it in the same way that tangata whenua can.
Conclusion: Tino Rangatiratanga is MÄori by Definition
Tino rangatiratanga is not a concept that can be transferred, adopted, or exercised by non-MÄori because it is fundamentally tied to:
1. Whakapapa (genealogy & ancestral authority)
2. Tikanga MÄori (customary law and cultural authority)
3. MÄtauranga MÄori (MÄori knowledge systems and worldview)
4. RongoÄ MÄori (spiritual and physical healing practices)
While non-MÄori may study, respect, or support these concepts, they cannot claim tino rangatiratanga, just as they cannot claim MÄori identity. The authority of tino rangatiratanga exists within and for MÄori as the original and rightful people of Aotearoa.
You sad little incel party.
Oh shut it
Biggest load of bullshit I have heard!
That you and you stop exploring
People rights I don't know what you
Are doing to work with your Parliament
Partnership to fixes or happy with the
Country that your voters help put the
Party that you and the acts should be
Working and helping for the future of
New Zealanders and the voters who
Vote for u and acts racist is racism
Stop exploring people rights because
Your still trying to get voters when you
Have a duty for all and u are part of a government in Parliament stop doing
Nothing wasting time and using valuable
Government time that you are showing
New Zealand public you are about leading
A country and not about serving or interest
In giving our future a chance but wasting time that you and your party is just doing
That/ if this bill don't pass you and your party need The country to have a referendum to vote acts out of Parliament
You have a duty to a roll but showing no
Work performance and focus but using
A lot of time management
Oh! My Lord!!
Well I'm backing out of this forum now, it's descended into some nasty verbal attacks, from both sides of the fence, if there were more @saltybread1 people, with lucid, well thought out observations, or @ironian-kd6 who is passionate but always civil, this would be a useful and productive platform that we could perhaps learn something from, there are some very intelligent people on it that I've enjoyed reading , but it's been spoiled by some unbelievably insulting barbs from people who should be ashamed of themselves.
I wish you all well, regardless of ethnicity, religion, beliefs or gender orientation, just be people.
What a load of shit.. "that brown, kid" is a product of policies made by bullshit talking politicians who think they know whats best. "I am maori".. nah, your a sell out to the culture and your ancestors đ¤ˇđŊââī¸
Love the fact that your disingenuousness was met with turned backs at Waitangi. This bill seeks to take us backwards as a country, and further from true partnership. Looking forward to tomorrow, and watching you get schooled.
Well kei a koe te tikanga. I will not and will never support ACT and what they want for MÄori. MÄori are not and will not be the same as pÄkehÄ. And to all those who support the racism this party represents. Donât get hÅhÄ when we donât welcome you with open armsâĻâĻ
Brilliant. I've voted for ACT twice now by splitting my vote with National and ACT. Bring on the next election, I will only be voting for ACT !!!!! David Seymour for Prime Minister, the current one is a male version of the cow we had. Many kudos to the ladies who spoke here as well. Nicole McKee and Karen Chhour have Mana in my book.
GO BACK TO SCHOOL, DAVID.
AND YES MÄORI OWNED THEIR OWN SHIPS, TRADED THEIR OWN PRODUCE FROM THEIR OWN LAND. MÄORI HELD THE ECONOMIC MONOPOLY PRIOR TO 1835 PRIOR TO 1840.
SHIPS NEEDED A FLAG (CERTIFICATION) TO TRADE OVERSEAS. A FLAG SYMBOLISED A COUNTRY'S OR NATION'S SOVEREIGNTY OR PLACE OF ORIGIN. KING WILLIAM IV RECOGNISED AND ACKNOWLEDGED THE 1835 MÄORI DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE FLAG (AS A SOVEREIGN STATE) OR HOW ELSE COULD THOSE SHIPS ENTER PORTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? THE MONARCHY GAVE HIS SO-CALLED TICK OF APPROVAL OR ENDORSEMENT FOR THE FLAG THAT RECOGNISED NZ AS A MÄORI INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN STATE.
NOW, WHY WOULD MÄORI CEDE SOVEREIGNTY WHEN THEY HELD ALL THE CARDS IN THE PACK? MÄORI THEREFORE AS A SOVEREIGN STATE GAINED
–OWNERSHIP–OF THEIR COUNTRY, THE WHOLE KABOODLE! INCLUDING FORESHORE & SEABED, WATER, MINERALS BELOW AND ABOVE, THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES, THE LOT. (You know like the British as a sovereign nation owns its White Cliffs of Dover coastline, its waterways, grand canals, picturesque lakes, the famed Sherwood Forest & treasured taonga, Stonehenge).ONCE NZ BECAME A MÄORI INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN STATE, AN INVASION WAS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE EXCEPT BY WAR OR CONQUEST. NO, THE INVASION OR USURPING OF MÄORI SOVEREIGNTY WAS THROUGH DECEPTION AND FORGERY (THE TRANSLATION) OF THOSE TREATY DOCUMENTS. MÄORI DID NOT CEDE SOVEREIGNTY. IT WAS HIJACKED, SWIPED. SCAMMED.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1DJ59oVLkE/?mibextid=oFDknk
The flag of the United Tribes of New Zealand became a symbol of the Declaration of Independence in 1835, which recognized MÄori sovereignty over New Zealand.
In March 1834, 25 northern chiefs and their followers adopted the flag in response to ships from New Zealand being seized unless they had a flag or certificate representing their country of origin.
MÄori chiefs choose a flag
On 20 March 1834, 25 Far North chiefs and their followers gathered at Busbyâs residence at Waitangi to choose a flag to represent NEW ZEALAND. ***A number of missionaries, settlers and the commanders [as witnesses] of 10 British and three American ships were also in attendance.
Following Busby's address, each chief came forward in turn to choose a flag, while the son of one of them recorded the votes. The most popular design, a flag already used by the Church Missionary Society, apparently received 12 votes, with the other two options preferred by 10 and three chiefs. Busby declared the chosen flag the national flag of New Zealand and had it hoisted on a flagpole to the accompaniment of a 21-gun salute from HMS Alligator.
The new flag was then sent back to New South Wales, from where â after some tweaking â it was despatched to King William IV. The King approved the rejigged flag, a drawing of which was circulated via the Admiralty with instructions to recognise it as New ZEALAND'S flag. It came to be KNOWN AS the Flag of the United Tribes of New Zealand, the title adopted by the group of northern chiefs at subsequent meetings.
So Maori were astute enough to sign an international treaty with the British Empire, but yet end up a labouring workforce for PÄkehÄ?
Is that what you call equitable education with your so-called treaty partner? Cheap and slave labour?
"School inspector Henry Taylor, writing in 1862, said, âI do not advocate for the Natives under present circumstances a refined education or high mental culture: it would be inconsistent, if we take into account the position they are likely to hold for many years to come in the social scale, and inappropriate, if we remember that they are better calculated by nature to get their living by manual rather than by mental labour. The belief in the suitability of MÄori for working-class occupations was to persist in official circles well into the 20th century."
So Captain Hobson entered into a Treaty with MÄori without high mental capacity to understand what they were signing? I'd call that deception, trickery, and subterfuge.
đđđ what a joke.
I am Maori and I think this doco is great and needs to be seen by all kiwis..fully support what act is trying to do here..equal rights and duties for all who call NZ our home.
Pakeha have no mana over tangata whenua's taonga
Mana belongs to whanau/hapu/iwi
From what I understand so far..â¤
National unity means what?? Nothing for Maori only foreigners
But we don't have equality we never did, if by definition you say all NZers should have the same rights why then have we been dispossessed of lands, culture and language due to colonisation, also pakeha/tauiwi(foreigners) used + made laws to take our lands, hunt + kill our people & actively promoted genocide through colonisation too unequalise us. Because Maori were disconnected from their cultural identity + lands; they became dispossessed. Today we are still fighting to be heard, still fighting to reinstate our indigeneity our heritage + rights as Tangata Whenua/Indigenous/1st Nations pple. We are constantly playing catch up bcz they make new policies & pass bills at the drop of a hat too suit party personal and political gain. How can they say Maori shouldn't have treaty rights to themselves when it was an agreement between the crown + Maori of that time. we are still struggling from being colonised so why were tauiwi giving themselves more rights to gain afluence since colonisation and Maori having had theirs taken away. U want to give more privileges to the privileged whilst Maori are once again having their rights assimilated into a political agenda that suits the privileged again that means the privileged will monopolise on maoridom to gain assets for themselves..we are given no genuine rights wen the government of the day ignore our pleas for equality but still are able to make laws & create bills to pass + asset gain. Maori rights + principals of the tiriti are one + the same. Non-Maori should make their own tiriti + leave ours alone, if they feel that righteous about Te tiriti then they should make their own treaty! oh hangon they have been for over 180yrs..
I wasn't born in NZ but my children were. I want them to grow up here. But if the extremists and radicals have their way, there is a huge risk of NZ becoming a divided society, and a far less desirable place to raise a family. Many people will join the exodus to Australia – and beyond, which will undermine the viability of NZ's future. Please share this video as widely as possible to help prevent that outcome….
Lets go david. Lets stop these handout kids. Enough is enough.
A documentary by ACT. The ultimate oxymoron!
I wonder when the last time Seymour was embraced by his Maori Cuzzyâs on the marae
How can ACT, the party that supports privatisation and free enterprise, support one party to a contract, rewriting the contract without the consent of the other party to the contract. How do you do business? How do I sell my house if the buyer can tear up the contract after both parties signed it. You can't have any contract, financial or social, if one party can tear up a contract because they want to. You can't have property rights without respecting the principle of a mutually agreed contract that all parties who sign agree to accept. David Seymour appears to be embracing the Donald Trump school of leadership and politics. I Don't like an election result. I will incite a riot to try and overturn the result. I don't accept the history of the Treaty. I'll ignore everything that happened in NZ before the Treaty was signed. I will, like Trump , ignore the facts. I will peddle misinformation and tell lies. The election was stolen. Maori weren't the only people living here when Captain Cook landed. They hadn't established that this was their country by virtue of the fact that they were the only people living here for hundreds of years. How does that not give them property rights in Aotearoa, NZ? Unless property rights don't extend to Maori. If that's the case it's acceptable for the Crown, having signed the treaty, to bring the British Army to NZ and use it to kill Maori and take their land. Where were your property rights then, David Seymour? Do you condone seizing assets by force? How did that privilege Maori? How did stripping Maori of their land, their language and their culture create a privilege for Maori? How does recognising this history and attempting to address the damage it caused privilege. When you taken everything from someone, regardless of there rights, how does giving a fraction of what was stolen back, mean they are getting more than their share. Let's not forget, in 1856 Colonial politician Dr Featherston said it was the duty of Europeans to "soothe down the dying pillow of the Maori race.' Providing life support when they get hit by a bus, providing someone preferential treatment. This country was Maori before Captain Cook landed. It was Maori when the Treaty was signed. In 1840 there were an estimated 80,000 Maori and 2050 non Maori living here. Only one non Maori signed the Treaty. That was Hobson on behalf of the Crown. By the end of 1840 about 540 Maori rangatira had signed the Treaty. Over 500 of those Maori signed only the Maori version. There's your contract, there's the terms of their agreement. That's where the debate starts. If you don't accept those facts you are a debating a fiction. You are claiming an election was stolen. You are repeating a lie, over and over again. You are fighting an election, based on a lie. Where does it end? Next you'll be ignoring the need to address Climate Change. The world is watching David Seymour. History is watching him. We are asking, "Who is with Donald Trump?" Who is following his lead now? Who will history look back on and say, "Yes, he was politician who followed the Trump's lead."
Makes me proud I voted ACT. The only ones with any sense. I don't agree with all they do and stand for but that is politics. So sad that the woke media of this country won't portray ACT and the treaty bill as it is, but always with a negative spin from extremists.
I find it odd that people want to argue with and not accept this.
Ah shut up seymour. đ
If we as a country continue to treat eachother differently depending on our ancestry, we will always be fighting amongst ourselves. We need a better future than that. Chris Luxon is not the leader we need him to be unfortunately
The treaty is the treaty -There are no principles.
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